Next Newsletter?

It's been about four months since the last newsletter, and the target date for NL Alpha is fast approaching. It's a bit concerning that we haven't seen any updates regarding NL or the Alpha. 

Not to be a negative Nancy, but the silence is deafening

Just wondering about this as well. Can we please get some solid information on NL and the alpha release? I think it's only fair for the fans.

I really hate being right 

One  thing I can guarantee the next newsletter will say, (6) accounts were actioned for Multi Clienting..it won't say that it will say  for Multi Boxxing, which is untrue, but at least Andy Warhol was right, and I"ll be famous for 15 minutes...

No newsletter means there is nothing to say?  Plus, proofreading is hard.

Grimbeard said:

I really hate being right 

I think quite a few do also.

Probably be a newsletter around June  🙂

But we need a newsletter now to tell us NL is not ready yet, even tho it is not supposed to be ready.

I play quite a few games. I don't even know if any of those have newsletters. 

I'll expand this to, probably will be a newsletter when NL is ready for first stage of testing. No NL newsletter? It's not ready yet.

  Skett said:

Probably be a newsletter around June  🙂

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Pawain said:

But we need a newsletter now to tell us NL is not ready yet, even tho it is not supposed to be ready.

Most games don't have newsletters but DO have other means of communication used by the developers, most notably posting on their forums, blog posts, or vlogs. UO has none of these and has chosen the newsletter as a form of player communication. So while you're comment is technically correct that most games don't post newsletters, it's disingenuous to the actual point of this post.

Regarding your comment that NL isn't supposed to be ready yet, so there is no reason to post is also skewing the point. First, NL Alpha is supposed to start middle of the year. That's pretty much anytime between June and July; information should need sharing ahead of that Alpha. Second, most games being worked on today keep some type of developer log. It is expected communication.

Frankly, you're being intentionally obtuse.

Rorschach said:

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   3. Cash sales of in game items.

 third party clients are illegal HERE but will we see some enforcement in game as well? Most importantly can a developer actually clarify because a huge segment of the population believes in their legality by the lack of enforcement 

Write your own nl.

Trismegistos said:

Write your own nl.

I'd rather hear from the producer what the roadmap is for UO

Karyn said:

Trismegistos said:

Write your own nl.

I'd rather hear from the producer what the roadmap is for UO

Seriously, when they have one they will let us know. The fact they have is a date makes a deadline. The team is very small and who knows if they will make that.  

Roadmap 1. 
NL goes to testing, they concentrate on that for as long as it takes. Perm shards get a couple of Dynamic events.

Roadmap 2. 
NL  does not make it to testing, it is delayed. They keep working on that. Perm shards get a couple of Dynamic events.

I'm not an obtusist I am a realist.

Pawain said:

Karyn said:

Trismegistos said:

Write your own nl.

I'd rather hear from the producer what the roadmap is for UO

Seriously, when they have one they will let us know. The fact they have is a date makes a deadline. The team is very small and who knows if they will make that.  

Roadmap 1. 
NL goes to testing, they concentrate on that for as long as it takes. Perm shards get a couple of Dynamic events.

Roadmap 2. 
NL  does not make it to testing, it is delayed. They keep working on that. Perm shards get a couple of Dynamic events.

I'm not an obtusist I am a realist.

Now you've stated your opinion twice let's let others state theirs 

Grimbeard said:

Pawain said:

Karyn said:

Trismegistos said:

Write your own nl.

I'd rather hear from the producer what the roadmap is for UO

Seriously, when they have one they will let us know. The fact they have is a date makes a deadline. The team is very small and who knows if they will make that.  

Roadmap 1. 
NL goes to testing, they concentrate on that for as long as it takes. Perm shards get a couple of Dynamic events.

Roadmap 2. 
NL  does not make it to testing, it is delayed. They keep working on that. Perm shards get a couple of Dynamic events.

I'm not an obtusist I am a realist.

Now you've stated your opinion twice let's let others state theirs 

Says the he/she that has now posted 5 times in this thread.  Take your own advice.

Grimbeard said:

Pawain said:

Karyn said:

Trismegistos said:

Write your own nl.

I'd rather hear from the producer what the roadmap is for UO

Seriously, when they have one they will let us know. The fact they have is a date makes a deadline. The team is very small and who knows if they will make that.  

Roadmap 1. 
NL goes to testing, they concentrate on that for as long as it takes. Perm shards get a couple of Dynamic events.

Roadmap 2. 
NL  does not make it to testing, it is delayed. They keep working on that. Perm shards get a couple of Dynamic events.

I'm not an obtusist I am a realist.

Now you've stated your opinion twice let's let others state theirs 

The poster replied to me. So I replied back. No one has replied to you until now, so how bout you stop posting the same things over and over, no one replies to your posts, you have to just keep posting the same things in every thread even tho no one cares enough to acknowledge your opinion.

But you can't resist trolling me, so Lets do a countdown timer for your reply that will add nothing to this topic.

any M&G coming up ? (im to lazy to look it up) (at least im honest about it 🙂 )

Grimbeard said:

Now you've stated your opinion twice let's let others state theirs 

It's a discussion that usually takes some back and forth in communication instead of just yelling out into the void and declaring yourself the winner of the topic. While I think Pawain is an apologist and obtuse, it doesn't mean that I'm not interested in hearing their position on the issue. 

Karyn said:

Grimbeard said:

Now you've stated your opinion twice let's let others state theirs 

It's a discussion that usually takes some back and forth in communication instead of just yelling out into the void and declaring yourself the winner of the topic. While I think Pawain is an apologist and obtuse, it doesn't mean that I'm not interested in hearing their position on the issue. 

Hearing it once wonderful it's 7000+ times and his mistaken belief that he is always right and the developers need his protection that derails thread after thread 

Grimbeard said:

Karyn said:

Grimbeard said:

Now you've stated your opinion twice let's let others state theirs 

It's a discussion that usually takes some back and forth in communication instead of just yelling out into the void and declaring yourself the winner of the topic. While I think Pawain is an apologist and obtuse, it doesn't mean that I'm not interested in hearing their position on the issue. 

Hearing it once wonderful it's 7000+ times and his mistaken belief that he is always right and the developers need his protection that derails thread after thread 

It seems I am right a lot. Have they answered anything here recently?  Who keeps saying they wont?? That would be me.

I am not defending them. I am smart enough to see they do not answer things that do not affect logging into the game. Or accessing your account Can we still log in and access our accounts. Yes.

Keep me out of your posts and I won't reply. You could not stop trolling for 20 mins. How long before you post again with nothing related to the topic? 10 mins?

Pawain said:

Grimbeard said:

Karyn said:

Grimbeard said:

Now you've stated your opinion twice let's let others state theirs 

It's a discussion that usually takes some back and forth in communication instead of just yelling out into the void and declaring yourself the winner of the topic. While I think Pawain is an apologist and obtuse, it doesn't mean that I'm not interested in hearing their position on the issue. 

Hearing it once wonderful it's 7000+ times and his mistaken belief that he is always right and the developers need his protection that derails thread after thread 

It seems I am right a lot. Have they answered anything here recently?  Who keeps saying they wont?? That would be me.

I am not defending them. I am smart enough to see they do not answer things that do not affect logging into the game. Or accessing your account Can we still log in and access our accounts. Yes.

Keep me out of your posts and I won't reply. You could not stop trolling for 20 mins. How long before you post again with nothing related to the topic? 10 mins?

As long as you're in a thread I'm in the thread see i would gladly never post again if you didn't but you are unable to not share your unwanted opinions 

The last thing mentioned in the newsletter was the festival of summer solstice. I suspect there will not be another newsletter until very close to, or after, that event. That's only my logic/guesswork though.

I don't see NL coming soon at all. Why even bother, you know very well, that even if they do release anything, will be bugged like crazy, I mean, do you really trust the quality control that we have now?? I mean, seriously ask yourselves.

Mariah said:

The last thing mentioned in the newsletter was the festival of summer solstice. I suspect there will not be another newsletter until very close to, or after, that event. That's only my logic/guesswork though.

Yes. Looks like it is at the Casino.  We will get a newsletter for that. The year is flying by, that will be soon if it out on the day.

I liked the 25th anniversary party on Origin. Would be nice to have booths with the GMs and minions. Logistics nightmare unless it's just on one server.

Yup you are a good reality counter. Keep living in that fantasy world where every question is answered by a staff member. Cause that is not the real world.

Don't need that just stick to the monthly newsletter you promised
 now what i need is for you to not reply to every post with your user error mentality see I'd gladly never post again if you would stop

Ladies, Ladies. you're both beautiful. can we just get back to discussing when the next newsletter will come out and stop with the sexual tension already?

Victim_Of_Siege said:

Ladies, Ladies. you're both beautiful. can we just get back to discussing when the next newsletter will come out and stop with the sexual tension already?

But one has the hots for the other.

Grimbeard said:

Rorschach said:

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   2. Information on exploits of bugs in sufficient detail to allow others to perform said exploit.
   3. Cash sales of in game items.

 third party clients are illegal HERE but will we see some enforcement in game as well? Most importantly can a developer actually clarify because a huge segment of the population believes in their legality by the lack of enforcement 

Yoshi said:

Grimbeard said:

Rorschach said:

Some posts have been removed.

1. No Posting In Breach Of Games’ Terms of Service - You must not post, or link to materials that are, in breach of the games’ Terms of Service. This includes, but is not limited to:
   1. Advertisement or promotion of unofficial servers.
   2. Information on exploits of bugs in sufficient detail to allow others to perform said exploit.
   3. Cash sales of in game items.

 third party clients are illegal HERE but will we see some enforcement in game as well? Most importantly can a developer actually clarify because a huge segment of the population believes in their legality by the lack of enforcement 

"classic client is still not supported in fel, i just logged on it and checked to verify.

does that help?

let me know when it works thanks"

Remarkable I guess UO changes my client every time I go to my Fel castle without me knowing it.

Nothing to see here 

“I am more likely to get banned from forum for stating fact than being banned in game”

This thread is exactly what Mesanna likes us fighting with each other rather than all holding her accountable 

Grimbeard said:

This thread is exactly what Mesanna likes us fighting with each other rather than all holding her accountable 

I'm actually curious. Has there been a time where change or anything came from people posting in the forums? Or is this just really a place for all UOer's to vent a little bit? 

If not, then where do we voice our concerns for this game where we can get an actual response? It's gotten to the point where even r/ultimaonline doesn't even think Broadsword's UO is even a contender compared to some of the other UO offerings.

MacroPlanet said:

Grimbeard said:

This thread is exactly what Mesanna likes us fighting with each other rather than all holding her accountable 

I'm actually curious. Has there been a time where change or anything came from people posting in the forums? Or is this just really a place for all UOer's to vent a little bit? 

If not, then where do we voice our concerns for this game where we can get an actual response? It's gotten to the point where even r/ultimaonline doesn't even think Broadsword's UO is even a contender compared to some of the other UO offerings.

The fact that the developers do read what's posted here and choose to ignore it just makes it more offensive take baja and the lag/reverts why no comments?? If it was Atlantic or even one of the Asian shards there'd be a log in screen announcement 

MacroPlanet said:

If not, then where do we voice our concerns for this game where we can get an actual response? 

You get an actual response by exercising the true power we have as subscribers and unsubscribe your account. That's what kills me about most of the complains on this forum and the endless pages of nonsense about "accountability." You can't hold them accountable by non-stop complaining while still paying for the product.

I think the team is well aware that every single person complaining on these forums are a paid subscriber. You cannot post here otherwise. And so for as mad as these people seem to be all the time, they're still paying for the privilege of being mad. 

The game is obviously still meeting whatever metric EA cares about, whether its a set amount of money brought in every month, a set number of minimum subscribers, a set number of use per active account, or some combination there in. 

With that in mind, how mad are these people here? Are they *mad* enough to unsubscribe and let their houses fall? Mad enough to walk away and let their accounts no longer accrue subscription time for vet rewards? Mad enough to actually do the one thing that could make change in the game?

Or do they just want to complain? 

Jepeth said:

MacroPlanet said:

If not, then where do we voice our concerns for this game where we can get an actual response? 

You get an actual response by exercising the true power we have as subscribers and unsubscribe your account. That's what kills me about most of the complains on this forum and the endless pages of nonsense about "accountability." You can't hold them accountable by non-stop complaining while still paying for the product.

I think the team is well aware that every single person complaining on these forums are a paid subscriber. You cannot post here otherwise. And so for as mad as these people seem to be all the time, they're still paying for the privilege of being mad. 

The game is obviously still meeting whatever metric EA cares about, whether its a set amount of money brought in every month, a set number of minimum subscribers, a set number of use per active account, or some combination there in. 

With that in mind, how mad are these people here? Are they *mad* enough to unsubscribe and let their houses fall? Mad enough to walk away and let their accounts no longer accrue subscription time for vet rewards? Mad enough to actually do the one thing that could make change in the game?

Or do they just want to complain? 

Quitting doesn't fix the problem 

Grimbeard said:

Quitting doesn't fix the problem 

This is a service we pay for. If I didn't like the service I was receiving, quitting would certainly fix my problem.

Jepeth said:

Grimbeard said:

Quitting doesn't fix the problem 

This is a service we pay for. If I didn't like the service I was receiving, quitting would certainly fix my problem.

Many of us have invested 20+ years of our lives not just the subscription fees but our hearts and souls we have literally lived loved and lost in game we should walk away and let the dark lady win? I think not

Grimbeard said:

Many of us have invested 20+ years of our lives not just the subscription fees but our hearts and souls we have literally lived loved and lost in game we should walk away and let the dark lady win? I think not

This 'dark lady' stuff is nonsense. Bonnie Armstrong is a person employed to produce a product. You can disagree with her direction but don't frame your issues with the game in such personal terms. You and Broadsword operate under a financial agreement. There are no "winners" and "losers" here. You either continue to pay for the product or you don't. 

Further more.. the game is going to close one day. Your 20+ years won't matter for anything when the login servers are shut off. The only thing you can hold onto when the game closes is the relationships with people you forge and the memories you choose to prioritize. Both of these things have absolutely nothing to do with how you may feel about Bonnie Armstrong.

Jepeth said:

Grimbeard said:

Many of us have invested 20+ years of our lives not just the subscription fees but our hearts and souls we have literally lived loved and lost in game we should walk away and let the dark lady win? I think not

This 'dark lady' stuff is nonsense. Bonnie Armstrong is a person employed to produce a product. You can disagree with her direction but don't frame your issues with the game in such personal terms. You and Broadsword operate under a financial agreement. There are no "winners" and "losers" here. You either continue to pay for the product or you don't. 

Further more.. the game is going to close one day. Your 20+ years won't matter for anything when the login servers are shut off. The only thing you can hold onto when the game closes is the relationships with people you forge and the memories you choose to prioritize. Both of these things have absolutely nothing to do with how you may feel about Bonnie Armstrong.

I never mix bonnie the person and Mesanna the developer

Grimbeard said:

Jepeth said:

Grimbeard said:

Many of us have invested 20+ years of our lives not just the subscription fees but our hearts and souls we have literally lived loved and lost in game we should walk away and let the dark lady win? I think not

This 'dark lady' stuff is nonsense. Bonnie Armstrong is a person employed to produce a product. You can disagree with her direction but don't frame your issues with the game in such personal terms. You and Broadsword operate under a financial agreement. There are no "winners" and "losers" here. You either continue to pay for the product or you don't. 

Further more.. the game is going to close one day. Your 20+ years won't matter for anything when the login servers are shut off. The only thing you can hold onto when the game closes is the relationships with people you forge and the memories you choose to prioritize. Both of these things have absolutely nothing to do with how you may feel about Bonnie Armstrong.

I never mix bonnie the person and Mesanna the developer

LMAO  "Mesanna" is NOT a developer she is a Producer at Broadsword Online Games.  Huge difference but you would not know that.

Lord_Frodo said:

LMAO  "Mesanna" is NOT a developer she is a Producer at Broadsword Online Games.  Huge difference but you would not know that.

Some bosses throw employees under the bus, I have never seen her blame the actual developers or coders for the things people complain about in UO.  Glad that has not been her approach.

Just like normal people do not pay for things they do not like, especially when it is for a non necessity, employees tend not to stay at a job they do not like, her team has been around since 2012?  The ones that matter seem to think she is doing a good job.

Can we get a list of things we might hold her responsible for from you two experts?  Would make things much clearer 

Shes responsible for making PIE ! 

Grimbeard said:

Can we get a list of things we might hold her responsible for from you two experts?  Would make things much clearer 

Keeping the servers running.  Eventually we will see the results of the Biggest and Boldest.

Pawain said:

Grimbeard said:

Can we get a list of things we might hold her responsible for from you two experts?  Would make things much clearer 

Keeping the servers running.  Eventually we will see the results of the Biggest and Boldest.

Well then the citizens of baja deserve a response right ?or is unplayable lag and reverts there fault and doesn't deserve communication 

They will fix it if they have not already, No one is still posting about it.  Just like they fix the main issues that arise each week or so.   They do not need our adulation to fix things, since they just fix and move on.

Pawain said:

They will fix it if they have not already, No one is still posting about it.  Just like they fix the main issues that arise each week or so.   They do not need our adulation to fix things, since they just fix and move on.

Funny someone posted just yesterday about reverts 

Well, I certainly appreciate you all completely derailing the thread here.

It's reasonable to expect consistent communication regarding the current status and future roadmap. That being said, it is unreasonable to expect that communication to answer every whim of a question or ultimately be accountable to your expectations. I don't expect the bus driver to go where I tell them to, but I do expect some indicator of where we're at on the route. 

The people in this thread on both ends of the extreme of the conversation seem more interested in fighting each other and seeing who can yell the loudest to prove their right. You're both a large part of the problem with the game's current state. 

Karyn said:

The people in this thread on both ends of the extreme of the conversation seem more interested in fighting each other and seeing who can yell the loudest to prove their right. You're both a large part of the problem with the game's current state. 

Agreed, this is a complete shit show. 

I have removed several posts for either a terms of service violation or a quote of such a post.  

You ought to lock this thread since it really is going nowhere.  Honestly, you have shown great restraint to this point.

Rocko said:

You ought to lock this thread since it really is going nowhere.  Honestly, you have shown great restraint to this point.

Zero reason to lock this thread it's ok to have heated discussions and people can choose to not read

I don't see how a complaint session is a heated discussion.  It's a pissing contest with no direction, peeing on each others shoes.  Not nice.

Rocko said:

I don't see how a complaint session is a heated discussion.  It's a pissing contest with no direction, peeing on each others shoes.  Not nice.

It was fine before your .02.

Rocko said:

I don't see how a complaint session is a heated discussion.  It's a pissing contest with no direction, peeing on each others shoes.  Not nice.

Where should we go to express our dissatisfaction? 

OP inquired about the next newsletter.  You among others turned it into a bug discussion and an inquisition into Mesanna.  

Rocko said:

OP inquired about the next newsletter.  You among others turned it into a bug discussion and an inquisition into Mesanna.  

See it's a pattern someone ask a question the developers should answer of course if the developers responded well we will never know because they ignore THEN it goes off the rails 

Grimbeard said:

Rocko said:

OP inquired about the next newsletter.  You among others turned it into a bug discussion and an inquisition into Mesanna.  

See it's a pattern someone ask a question the developers should answer of course if the developers responded well we will never know because they ignore THEN it goes off the rails 

You've hit the nail on the head with your observation about the frustrating pattern of communication (or lack thereof) from Broadsword. It's disheartening when players have genuine questions or concerns, but the developers remain silent, leaving us in the dark.

It's understandable that Broadsword have a lot on their plate, but taking a moment to acknowledge and respond to player inquiries goes a long way in fostering a positive and engaged community. When developers choose to ignore these concerns, it creates a breeding ground for disgruntlement and frustration.

Players begin to feel like their voices don't matter, their concerns are insignificant, and their investment in the game is unappreciated. This can lead to a growing sense of disillusionment, causing some players to lose interest and move on to other games.

Friendly communication is key to building trust and keeping players engaged. Developers need to recognize the importance of transparency and actively address player questions and concerns. Even if they don't have all the answers or cannot fulfill every request, a simple acknowledgement can make a world of difference.

A little communication goes a long way in fostering a healthy and thriving community. I just wish Broadsword would understand this. They know about this too, because in a couple of their stream for the NL announcements they mention to keep things civil.

Grimbeard said:

Rocko said:

OP inquired about the next newsletter.  You among others turned it into a bug discussion and an inquisition into Mesanna.  

See it's a pattern someone ask a question the developers should answer of course if the developers responded well we will never know because they ignore THEN it goes off the rails 

If this is what you truly believe, and that all of your posts in regards to developer/producer communication with the customer has proven fruitless, then you should try another approach.

Here is a suggestion or two for you, @Grimbeard ;

1. Use this forum to organize a letter writing campaign.  Use USPS, not email.  Define what you think your letter should be and organize players to send the letter to BS. 
2. If you are an investor in EA (or not) send letters to investor relations detailing what you see the issues to be.

You can be the hero. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0GFRcFm-aY

Will be soon. You can see the set up on Origin right now.  Seems like it will be like the 25th anniversary Faire.  Kinda like I guessed.

Pawain said:

Will be soon. You can see the set up on Origin right now.  Seems like it will be like the 25th anniversary Faire.  Kinda like I guessed.

Happen to have the link to that post where you nailed that guess?

keven2002 said:

Pawain said:

Will be soon. You can see the set up on Origin right now.  Seems like it will be like the 25th anniversary Faire.  Kinda like I guessed.

Happen to have the link to that post where you nailed that guess?

In some post I said I hope it is like the 25th anniversary Faire because I liked it.  If you have not noticed, I make quite a few posts. 😂 so I'm not looking.

Pawain said:

keven2002 said:

Pawain said:

Will be soon. You can see the set up on Origin right now.  Seems like it will be like the 25th anniversary Faire.  Kinda like I guessed.

Happen to have the link to that post where you nailed that guess?

In some post I said I hope it is like the 25th anniversary Faire because I liked it.  If you have not noticed, I make quite a few posts. 😂 so I'm not looking.

So you didn't really guess anything? Sounds like you might have said you hoped it was like something which is different from guessing what it would be. Going off that logic I can hope we get something to do and I'd have guessed that too?

I hope you two find some sort of truths with each other