2023-02-10 22:00
#0
PSA
Out of 18 I cross polinated, none made black or white seeds.
Out of 18 I cross polinated, none made black or white seeds.
If you planted seeds for thorns on the first day, They are ready to harvest 2 - 11
Started by Pawain
· 2023-02-10
· 55 posts
· General Discussions
2023-02-10 22:15
#1
I think you have to cross pollinate with another type? if you are crossing with other seeds of the same type (bright green) it wont work believe..........
I have 72 plants on the go and only getting green seeds........
I have 72 plants on the go and only getting green seeds........
2023-02-10 22:23
#2
Ya darn. Next round I'll just let them self pollinate. Been a long time since I actually pollinated any plants. Always hate when you do get a color and pull the seed and it turns into a seed of Renewal.JackFlashUk said:I think you have to cross pollinate with another type? if you are crossing with other seeds of the same type (bright green) it wont work believe..........
I have 72 plants on the go and only getting green seeds........
2023-02-10 22:25
#3
I've gotten black and white from crossing plants of the same type.
2023-02-10 22:29
#4
Ya I have a lot of white poppies around my garden bed from making Orange Petals. Ill look it up.Marge said:I've gotten black and white from crossing plants of the same type.
2023-02-10 22:31
#5
not true you can get black/white crossing same color/type. I planted 585 and got 3 black plants out of them some times I get 8 to 10 out of 585 plants. I average 4 to 5 mutant plants out of 585 which yields about 32 to 40 black/ white seeds
2023-02-10 22:40
#6
Says in the Wiki:
Black and White rare seeds are also sometimes produced as mutants from regular plant crossing.
The button is called the Cross-Pollination button.
I proved I'm not good at words yesterday, so yall figure it out. 🙂
Black and White rare seeds are also sometimes produced as mutants from regular plant crossing.
The button is called the Cross-Pollination button.
I proved I'm not good at words yesterday, so yall figure it out. 🙂
2023-02-10 22:46
#7
so I have crap luck as always then
no black/white seeds from 648 seed harvests
no black/white seeds from 648 seed harvests
2023-02-10 22:47
#8
Yay Skett to the Rescue!
Next Ill try math with his numbers. That is a .5% to 1.7% chance to get a black or white plant.
So keep Pollinating little Bees! 😂
Next Ill try math with his numbers. That is a .5% to 1.7% chance to get a black or white plant.
So keep Pollinating little Bees! 😂
2023-02-10 22:53
#9
2023-02-10 23:19
#10
If you're not fussy about which seeds you get you might have better luck doing the Naturalist quest.
2023-02-10 23:56
#11
this ^^^
and you can do it in like 5 mins or less over and over and over .......
2023-02-11 00:31
#12
Best way I have found to get a decent % of black and white plants is to pollinate the plant with itself not pollinating other plants. Average a bout 1 out of 65 being a totally inbred mutant.
2023-02-11 00:34
#13
nice to know i thought it was the opposite
2023-02-11 00:36
#14
Inbred Mutants? sounds like you've met my inlaws . . .Tyrath said:Best way I have found to get a decent % of black and white plants is to pollinate the plant with itself not pollinating other plants. Average a bout 1 out of 65 being a totally inbred mutant.
2023-02-11 00:46
#15
Victim_Of_Siege said:Inbred Mutants? sounds like you've met my inlaws . . .Tyrath said:Best way I have found to get a decent % of black and white plants is to pollinate the plant with itself not pollinating other plants. Average a bout 1 out of 65 being a totally inbred mutant.
We have the same inlaws???
2023-02-11 04:22
#16
Only you would would word it that way while doing the deed with your plants.Tyrath said:Best way I have found to get a decent % of black and white plants is to pollinate the plant with itself not pollinating other plants. Average a bout 1 out of 65 being a totally inbred mutant.
Yes that is correct, if you push the button you have the chance. My memories returneth.
2023-02-11 09:43
#17
Uncle Grandpa, is that you??Tyrath said:Victim_Of_Siege said:Inbred Mutants? sounds like you've met my inlaws . . .Tyrath said:Best way I have found to get a decent % of black and white plants is to pollinate the plant with itself not pollinating other plants. Average a bout 1 out of 65 being a totally inbred mutant.
We have the same inlaws???
2023-02-11 11:40
#18
So, to understand better. You don't cross pollinate with another plant and you don't allow it to self pollinate, you actively pollinate it with itself?Tyrath said:Best way I have found to get a decent % of black and white plants is to pollinate the plant with itself not pollinating other plants. Average a bout 1 out of 65 being a totally inbred mutant.
2023-02-11 13:23
#19
At this point it may be worth drawing attention to the page: https://uo.com/wiki/ultima-online-wiki/technical/creating-macros/example-macros/
which has an EC macro for harvesting seeds and resources from plants.
2023-02-11 13:29
#20
Petra_Fyde said:So, to understand better. You don't cross pollinate with another plant and you don't allow it to self pollinate, you actively pollinate it with itself?Tyrath said:Best way I have found to get a decent % of black and white plants is to pollinate the plant with itself not pollinating other plants. Average a bout 1 out of 65 being a totally inbred mutant.
Yes. I can't remember which Dev said it or where but it was during the time Wilki was present. But the statement was that "Pollinating a plant with itself give the highest chance of mutant seeds." So I started doing that and got a much higher percentage of white and black mutants than I did prior with cross pollinating. The 1 out of 65 does vary as does everything with the RNG but that is a rough working average. Some cycles it might be 300-1 others it might be 25-1. The odds seemed to be high using the old plant pot and potions and watering every day method than it is in the raised beds, using fertile earth in the plant pots also seemed to increase the odds. Then there was that time that the plants from the Naturalist quest made seeds for 2 cycles before they fixed it..... that was the best odds 🙂
2023-02-11 13:30
#21
Victim_Of_Siege said:Uncle Grandpa, is that you??Tyrath said:Victim_Of_Siege said:Inbred Mutants? sounds like you've met my inlaws . . .Tyrath said:Best way I have found to get a decent % of black and white plants is to pollinate the plant with itself not pollinating other plants. Average a bout 1 out of 65 being a totally inbred mutant.
We have the same inlaws???
Sure is Cousin Brother VIC!
2023-02-11 18:31
#22
Your 1/65 is 1.53% That fits in the high range of Sketts numbers.Tyrath said:Victim_Of_Siege said:Uncle Grandpa, is that you??Tyrath said:Victim_Of_Siege said:Inbred Mutants? sounds like you've met my inlaws . . .Tyrath said:Best way I have found to get a decent % of black and white plants is to pollinate the plant with itself not pollinating other plants. Average a bout 1 out of 65 being a totally inbred mutant.
We have the same inlaws???
Sure is Cousin Brother VIC!
Now we need to find the parent plant that gives high odds and stick him in a box and use him for all harvests! Eventually all your plants will be mutants.
2023-02-12 05:54
#23
AmberWitch said:If you're not fussy about which seeds you get you might have better luck doing the Naturalist quest.
I would multi-client and stick a bunch of chars on auto-follow for this. Still have to manually switch to each one to click the holes though, and get them auto-following again. End up with a bunch of seeds that way, including black and white.
2023-02-12 17:23
#24
PlayerSkillFTW said:AmberWitch said:If you're not fussy about which seeds you get you might have better luck doing the Naturalist quest.
I would multi-client and stick a bunch of chars on auto-follow for this. Still have to manually switch to each one to click the holes though, and get them auto-following again. End up with a bunch of seeds that way, including black and white.
If I attempted to do that all my followers would either be dead, dead, dead or lost in some corner.
2023-02-14 13:34
#25
I planted 36 plain snake plants, not bright green. So that was a waste lol. Anyone know how I can get bright green snake plants through cross pollination? Is it ferns and pampas grass that makes snake plant?
2023-02-14 13:45
#26
I use barrel cactus
2023-02-14 13:55
#27
If I remember correctly cross pollinating like colors will give bright versions of the color.
2023-02-14 14:14
#28
https://www.uoguide.com/Plants_&_Seedsdvvid said:I planted 36 plain snake plants, not bright green. So that was a waste lol. Anyone know how I can get bright green snake plants through cross pollination? Is it ferns and pampas grass that makes snake plant?
Need to begin with green. Or other colors.
There is a big square chart somewhere out in digital land that lets you like them up easier.
Since there was just a harvest ask for seeds instead.
Rumor mill says they are going to start the spawn early so players can get seeds. Possible as soon as this weekend.
2023-02-14 14:50
#29
I just made Bright Green Snakey plant seeds since I let all of my seeds go in the IDOCs. Farm up a blue and a yellow snake plant and cross pollinate them for a green snakey plant then cross pollinate the green snakey plants together for bright green Snakey plants. Can do the same with prickly pears or cactus. And cross pollinate the pricklies and cacti with green water plants prickly with water plant = Cactus Cactus with water plant = Snakey Plant. It just takes a long time to do it from scratch. So easiest to just beg for or buy the bright seeds. Or farm until you get a yellow and blue snake plant and reduce the growing time to 2 growth cycles to get the bright green seeds. Now I need to make bright red elephant ears so I can seal the books and I can leave my books laying around the world and them not be altered.
There are a couple of different cross pollinating recipes to get the desired resource bearing plants you want. LOTS of combos that just make deco plants.
2023-02-14 17:33
#30
Getting a bright green barrel cactus seed through cross pollination can be tricky. When you cross pollinate a normal green barrel cactus plant with another normal green barrel cactus plant you will end up with a bright green, white, or black seed that is for a random 1 out of 19 plants. 17 of those plant types are listed here: https://uo.com/wiki/ultima-online-wiki/gameplay/crafting/plant-growing/cross-pollination/ along with cactus cactus and decorative vanilla.
You also have a chance at getting bright green barrel cactus seeds if you cross pollinate green tri-barrel cactus with green tri-barrel, barrel, or prickly pear cactus or cross pollinate green prickly pear cactus with green prickly pear or barrel cactus.
You also have a chance at getting bright green barrel cactus seeds if you cross pollinate green tri-barrel cactus with green tri-barrel, barrel, or prickly pear cactus or cross pollinate green prickly pear cactus with green prickly pear or barrel cactus.
2023-02-14 18:56
#31
Snake Plantdvvid said:I planted 36 plain snake plants, not bright green. So that was a waste lol. Anyone know how I can get bright green snake plants through cross pollination? Is it ferns and pampas grass that makes snake plant?
- Snake Plant x Snake Plant
- Prickly Pear Cactus x Water Plant
- Barrel Cactus x Century Plant
- Barrel Cactus x Water Plant
- Tribarrel Cactus x Small Palm
- Tribarrel Cactus x Century Plant
- Snake Plant x Water Plant (50% chance)
- Snake Plant x Prickly Pear Cactus (50% chance)
The black/white chance is around 1%.
From an old Stratics page.
2023-02-14 19:01
#32
I found the big Square one that you just line em up.
http://ergreenman.com/plants/uogtypecrossmod.html
http://ergreenman.com/plants/uogtypecrossmod.html
2023-02-14 19:06
#33
There is also a cross pollination page in the wiki https://uo.com/wiki/ultima-online-wiki/gameplay/crafting/plant-growing/cross-pollination/
2023-02-14 19:12
#34
I'm waiting for a certain poster to cross and find that we have plant oddities and make a Spider, Hops, Cactus, or Bonsai. Then have to read his novel about how it should not be that way.
2023-02-14 19:29
#35
Shh!
Yes, the plant system has a bug, but it was left that way by popular request of players.
Anyone interested in exploring the 'bug' there's a page here:
I can say that I have explored it at length and have seeds for most of the resulting plant types.
2023-02-14 19:36
#36
I have a bag with all the colors and varieties of the oddity plant types. I have all the color Bonsais but did not want all the types.
2023-02-14 21:21
#37
if you need them on Atlantic, i can give you somedvvid said:I planted 36 plain snake plants, not bright green. So that was a waste lol. Anyone know how I can get bright green snake plants through cross pollination? Is it ferns and pampas grass that makes snake plant?
2023-02-15 01:37
#38
I have bright green snake plant seeds on Baja and Siege. PM me if you need any on either of those shards.
2023-02-15 02:00
#39
I have Pac for ya
2023-02-16 23:08
#40
Me and my carpal tunnel thank you 🙂Mariah said:At this point it may be worth drawing attention to the page: https://uo.com/wiki/ultima-online-wiki/technical/creating-macros/example-macros/which has an EC macro for harvesting seeds and resources from plants.
2023-02-28 13:46
#41
I thought this might be the most appropriate thread for my question without opening a new thread for it.
Can anyone confirm how fertile dirt works in potted plants? I understand it can give random growth to potted plants but is just a one and done type of thing or could they jump a few times?
I decided to use some fertile dirt on my next batch of potted plants after reading this thread to see if there would be increased mutation so I planted 15 pots with fertile dirt. I actually ran out so I used 5 pots with regular dirt. This morning I went to tend to my plants and about 50% of the fertile dirt ones jumped a growing day of 3 to 4 (only noticed because they went from dirt to green). Do the plants that jumped have a chance at jumping another day or are they done? I'd assume the ones that didn't jump still have a chance at some point?
Just wondering if it makes sense to use fertile dirt when trying to expedite gathering resources like thorns which would be good to know and maybe helpful to some that are behind in their green thorn production.
2023-02-28 14:32
#42
I don't think it's ever been said definitively, however the gump for using fertile dirt with a garden bed seems to imply it has a chance of boosting more than once. RNG permitting of course.
2023-02-28 14:58
#43
Fertile Earth is really good for throwing everything out of willy wack if you like to harvest everything at one time. It randomly speeds growth rates up on some and not others. It works the same in Raised Beds as it does filling Old Pots with it. LOL when I was still running 200+ raised beds I was bored and did them all with fertile earth. The Growth Rates were all over the map.
2023-02-28 20:57
#44
Yes now I remember why I stopped using it before garden beds. I had 50 bowls and they were all over the place in time instead of harvesting at the same time, you caused yourself to have plants at different stages.
2023-02-28 23:15
#45
Mariah said:I don't think it's ever been said definitively, however the gump for using fertile dirt with a garden bed seems to imply it has a chance of boosting more than once. RNG permitting of course.
Well this is completely new to me... I had no idea you could use fertile dirt in a garden bed.
I will try to keep everyone posted on what happens using fertile dirt on my 15 plants.
2023-03-01 02:44
#46
Some will be full and ready for harvest 2-3 days before others. you'll have plants in multiple stages of growth constantly. for Me (Along with @Tyrath and @Pawain apparently lol) it was more of a nuisance than a blessing.keven2002 said:Mariah said:I don't think it's ever been said definitively, however the gump for using fertile dirt with a garden bed seems to imply it has a chance of boosting more than once. RNG permitting of course.Well this is completely new to me... I had no idea you could use fertile dirt in a garden bed.I will try to keep everyone posted on what happens using fertile dirt on my 15 plants.
2023-03-01 12:19
#47
Yea I can see your point.I think that growing them in a pot long term wouldn't be what I do because of the different stages. Right now it's kind of the only reason I actually log in (I only have 4 garden beds) so I don't mind it because I'll probably do another round but I won't be using more fertile dirt in a pot (might do it in the garden bed).
2023-03-01 14:01
#48
How does one get that gump to pop up? is it at placement? while still empty? with plants already planted?
I cant seem to figure it out..
I cant seem to figure it out..
2023-03-01 15:18
#49
By having fertile dirt in your pack when you attempt to plant the seed. Details here:
2023-03-01 19:23
#50
Sweet.. Thanks M.
2023-03-10 12:09
#51
Little bit of an update on my plant growing using fertile dirt...
It does seem very random which ones jump up a level. One day I would have maybe 12 out of 50 jump and the next day it would be like 2 out of 50. I can confirm that using fertile dirt can make plants jump multiple times and they can also jump in the gathering phase (so you can gather 2 seeds/resources after 1 day). Some of my plants from fertile dirt haven't jumped at all.
All in all though it's pretty much as others have said where it becomes a little bit on an inconvenience having them all at different stages because some plants will be ready for decoration mode potentially several days before others. It's not a huge deal but for me I do not think I will use fertile dirt again.
2023-03-10 17:00
#52
Ya you would use it if you did the quest and got a seed of the color and type that you have wanted for a long time and want it to advance faster so you can get it sooner!
2023-03-11 00:07
#53
I have two EC macros to make cross pollinating easier and faster.
The first macro brings up the pollination gump for the currently targeted plant
UserCommand script GumpsParsing.DestroyGump(29842)
Delay(.5)
UserCommand script GumpsParsing.DestroyGump(22222)
The second macro will press the pollination button. You still need to target the plant to pollinate.
UserCommand script GumpsParsing.PressButton(22222,5)
The goal of the second macro is to eliminate the need to move the cursor to the gump, click the button, then move the cursor to the plant to pollinate. The time spent moving the cursor back and forth adds up.
The first macro brings up the pollination gump for the currently targeted plant
UserCommand script GumpsParsing.DestroyGump(29842)
Delay(.5)
UserCommand script GumpsParsing.DestroyGump(22222)
Delay(.5)
UseTargetedObject
Delay(.5)
Delay(.5)
UserCommand script GumpsParsing.PressButton(29842,1)
The second macro will press the pollination button. You still need to target the plant to pollinate.
UserCommand script GumpsParsing.PressButton(22222,5)
The goal of the second macro is to eliminate the need to move the cursor to the gump, click the button, then move the cursor to the plant to pollinate. The time spent moving the cursor back and forth adds up.
2023-03-14 13:31
#54
Just one bit of follow up info now that I'm coming close to an end of my fertile dirt plants.
6 of my plants that have "jumped" one their last day (or after their last day). For example - yesterday a batch of my fertile plants were at 7/8 (resources) with today being their last day of production...when I logged in today to gather I saw the green plus sign (meaning they jumped which would technically be 9/8). I also wasn't able to log in Sunday (I had a couple plants that were going to be 8/8) but when I logged in Monday (plants were done producing by 1 day at that point) I saw a green plus sign.
Doesn't seem like it should work like that given there are no further stages on the last day (or after).