I do agree that EJ should not be able to participate in these events.
Eggs are a "pvp" event and the path of least resistance. You are competing against other players to get the eggs. Just hope no one is surprised or upset when they never offer a similar mechanic next treasures event due to all the egg complainers and everyone will have to go into the dungeon or be left out of the event.
They don't have to make picking up eggs with 0 skills a viable alternative for veterans who can kill paragons and bosses and also experienced enough to use Scripts.
0 skills, 0 gear with 0 risk can get a drop
Versus
6 x 120 skills, top gears, tonnes of grey robes, same drop.
Simply cap the number of eggs that an EJ account can turn in per day, maybe 20 per account. Everyone can participate, but paid accounts get unlimited turn ins.
Yup, they need to cap the rewards for the naked, legendary Egg Pickers.
And increase the drop rate for those who are working (killing the) "Hard" (way).
"Then person X (not me, definitely not me using a vpn to run loads of EJ accounts) will just transfer the eggs from bots to a paid account first stood next to the artificer and hand in with paid account. I'm not stupid.
I think the players can find solution themselves,
there are eggs in fel i am sure outside of a guardzone you can enact your own revenge and be rewarded.
you don't need to always run crying to Daddy dev
let them get on with doing whatever it is they do"
You just need to be smarter than the scripters. Find out which spawn spots they hit and in which order. When you see them at a particular spot recall to their next spot before they do and gather the eggs there. That is what I do to one of the suspected scripters on Pac.
😂 much better than whining.
It's clear the destard dungeon spawn and drop rate is poor at this point. The artifact drop rate is terrible compared to prior dungeon events, I'd say it's now about 1/10 the drop rate, using the same character vs. prior dungeon events. Several people have called for bringing back the "hole" slaughterfest style spawn rate. It's sad to say, but the dungeon is no longer "fun".
On egg collecting, a thought experiment --
If you could automate this, and run this on possibly many shards concurrently, that seems an obvious thing that some set of players is going to do. While we don't know if EJ accounts are the primary culprits, it's more likely than not that these are EJ accounts. I'd imagine the paid accounts are being used for things that only paid accounts / paid expansions are able to do. (As others noted, no skill needed, no expansions needed, no need to shard xfer, etc).
It's also more likely than not that broadsword already knows whether EJ accounts are the primary players picking up eggs/etc. One side effect of the current design is that it's likely that many more EJ accounts have been created in the past 2 months. Perhaps that has provided a boost to subscriber numbers, assuming this is a tracked (and possibly important) metric.
I think it would be interesting to see the numbers of luck potions used by day since this event started. As a business first and entertainment second, I would imagine it likely very obvious at which point this event was more successful.
Not saying there should only be dungeon method to acquire rewards.
But the reward should commensurate with the effort.
This isn't whining, it's being truthfully pissed. Just like when you have to line up in a long queue, while some can just take the easy and cut to the front of the queue... all being equal.
U call that whining? So if someone does that to u in real life u just tell the rest in the queue to shut up and stop whining.
I just wish the dev team would admit what we know to be true - they literally can't afford to ban scripters since this game is basically abandonware so every one might as well script up. UO has become battle of the bots.
Well they can certainly keep up with the ding ding ding.... if they can give those who shed blood and tears a reward that is 10 times those who picked up from the floor.
How about guaranteed 10 drops per paragon if solo killed and at least 1 or more if shared?
Have any of the egg pickers ever touched a Shadow Wrym? It's OooOoOooOoo in just 3 or 4 seconds with my 75 - 80 resist warrior.
Oh... no, guaranteed drop from killing a paragon is unfair.
Maybe they should make the rewards from egg turn-in like Yukio. The turn-in should have a chance to reward 20 types of garbage, but if you are LUCKY you earn ONE minor arty. 1 in 20 chances of getting from the eggs turn in, not guaranteed.
Unfair? Hello, we killed hundreds at various locations just to spin the lottery once at Yukio. Some of us did 10 rounds before getting 1 precious drop.
Yukio should have been a 100% guaranteed drop while eggs turn in should be a lottery instead.
Also, anyone can sign up with a new EJ now and start getting productive with eggs. Just need 50 skills for recalling and marking and buy some cheap cursed +skills jewels with magery and med.
When there are decent rewards to be bought, the event drops normally stay around 2-3 million each nearly until halfway through the event. That is even when there are plenty of mobs & a decent drop rate. The prices normally do not drop really low (around 1 mil) until the last couple of weeks when everyone has way more than what they need. This event is what maybe 3 weeks old and there are pages and pages of fey ingots on VS that are selling for 1.2 mil on our server. The market is literally flooded with them. It is both good and bad. Good for people who do not have time to play but with some money to spend. They get a deal. Bad because the event rewards should have some steady value from event to event. It just is good economy all around if that is the case. Soon the event rewards will be worth less than half what they normally are and there will be no real demand for them in the near future.
Some will blame Scripters for the lower cost. I blame the reward quality vs past rewards.
Ice was an example of not many desired rewards.
All I know is there are some players who love to gather things in UO and they are in Heaven right now.
We simply need a central market accessible by all shards
Ingots selling on my shard were going long term at about 1.5 million but a single player, who is not a scripter, put about 20 on at 1.2 million. Price might go back to 1.5 million when those sell. But notice they are are not selling that fast. Best bet might be to claim a reward like the quiver, fey slayer, jawbone, ankh or other reward a player might want and sell that instead. Have doubts that I could sell 80 to 100 ingots at a decent price before the end of the event. As has been mentioned left over ingots, most drops and eggs will have little or no value one day after the turn in period ends. Think the items I mentioned are the best bets for putting on my vendor but that is just my opinion.
On Pac we lure the scripters out of the guard zones using eggs as bait.
Which is worse:
Player A recall to pick up egg manually, but he also places bagball to block scripter (Player B ).
Player B (scripter) could be AFK or not - no one knows for sure except perhaps GM. We are all guessing.
So who is the greater evil? The one who plays normally but uses game mechanics to block scripters or the scripter?
I am Player C, the idiot running around picking eggs AND clearing the bagball.
They wrote:
The attempts for new game clients in the past was to rule out the use 3rd party software. Such 3rd party software mostly target the old classic client.
The community chose to play with the classic client that is almost 24 years old?
Who is to blame? The Dev or the players?
Even Windows 3.1 and IE are Extinct.
You want to use them for banking and get Hacked?
We asked for it.
And it has already been proven that you can write scripts for the EC and is totally legal so CC + 3rd party = EC what is the difference
Maybe but try to Google and you will find more resources for CC than EC.
If you can find good scripts for EC, I would like to know. We even wanted to create a section in uo.com... anyone has egg hunting script to share?
It's legal, no worries. Post here, officially.
There was a script for the EC posted here and now I can not find it.
Try it out, as they say only afk is illegal, isn't it...
Yup. Some long posts by others included EC. But those scripters refer to CC users, not EC.
We learn now that EC is more than just about new or so-called "ugly" graphics. Dev tried hard and it was the 3rd attempt after 3rd Dawn and KR.
It is at least more than 10 years newer than the CC and does not have any 3rd party scripts that is as powerful as those for CC.
Pinco's only a heavy UI mod.
Not to turn this into a client war BUT I used CC only (with UOA) and I feel at a severe disadvantage compared to someone using EC (with or without Pincos) given all the complex macros you can make. Perfect example is automatic easter egg pickup (auto loot things like arrows which I'd love right about now) or the automatic attacking of hostile (that can be looped 1000x) which was used by many in the pile (I had to keep pressing my macro which was a 3 part macro which took longer to trigger than an EC macro) or even the ability to create a hot button to heal nearest friendly. Using regular CC +UOA doesn't even come close to getting that.
I cannot speak to other 3rd party programs for CC as I do not use them and my thought was that they shouldn't be used either. If we are comparing "approved" clients and the ability of macros then I think EC is by far superior.
