Lucky I return to the game in 2015 or so.
If I return after what you said come true I would leave because I cannot get any of the event items.
So everyone is worried about economy for those who are still playing. Why not worry about the dwindling population, and tall learning curve for returning or new players and let them be able to access items new or old.
Why is there a need to be so selfish.
thing is, not everyone has "the time" to put.. no one could ever put the time a 25yo acct has put... and account bound, then nothing would be for sale... that's also absurd.. so if one went on vacation and missed somtn, one can never get it? be serious!
I would like both options when claiming them. But I rarely sell things, I am a hoarder.
Or we could have them all for sale in the UO store..
I tried selling my Cloak of light for the past 4 months..no one wanted it! I saw at least 3 other people spamming gen chat on ATL trying to sell theirs.
Shard Bound works just fine, it allows players to grow their own shards community and commerce. I'd rather sell to people on my own shard to grow my shards community.
No.
Making them account Bound would not only kill the economy, but make, players who missed those Events, have to wait, who knows how long, before they can get those items again...
With Shard Bound, instead, trading would be possible, even on low population shard, players who missed the Events could find them purchasing them from other players on that Shard.
Shard Bound = GOOD
Account Bound = BAD
Want to use those items on multiple characters across multiple Shards ? Either get them on multiple Shards or get them on your Shard and then either trade them with players who have them on other Shards, or sell those extra you have on your Shard to then use that gold to purchase them on whatever other Shard you need them but were not abple to hunt for them...
Besides, now, with eggs turn ins, which I hope will stay as a mechanics to get Treasures of Rewards without fighting also for future Events, it IS possible to get Shard Bound Rewards on those Shards where a player does not have a fighting ready character... just go collect the eggs on whatever Shard you need some of those items, turn them in, and get the Rewards which you need on that other Shard.
Again,
Shard Bound = GOOD
Account Bound = BAD
Not sure how I feel about this idea - but how about an item, bought or hunted for (A bit like the whetstone?), which could convert 'shard bound' to 'account bound'? That way you could take items off travelling with you, but only for your own characters, not to cart off to sell on Atlantic.
Such an item would allow previous, already owned, items to be converted rather than just future items? Also the drops that were not converted would be available to sell within the shard's population.
I prefer economies and I prefer the shard I've chosen to play on. A friend got a drop and I was happy he was able to do what he wanted with it on our shard.
Account Bound doesn't solve any problem. Shard Bound does.
I'm not going to argue. I'm just stating my preference. I think shards are being choked and I'd prefer if people used shields more judiciously and for enjoyment rather than economies or vacations from overpopulation.
I think more people should choose shards other than Atlantic and come back. The economies can be better because prices are lower. Just need bodies to fill it.
It's easy for me to hate on it, I don't have shard shields. But I don't think they are a value add to the game. Or at least, they shouldn't be necessary.
Play on the shard you chose. It's not a terrible concept.
The spawn was reverted every time I looked on Chessy. I did pick up eggs there, I did trade some sashes for eggs there. Could not have done that if those were shard bound.
Allowing things to change from shard bound to account bound does not hurt a shards economy.
Accept that Atlantic is the trade hub, things come there from all shards Things are then taken to other shards. When I transfer I call out in chat that I will take things to Atl. Few do that. When I return I ask if anyone needs something brought back. Many more respond.
Items do not go to Atlantic to disappear, they are going to other shards via the trade hub.
I guess if you do not transfer often you do not understand the trade routes. You could say civilization began when humans had a trade route.
I'm not arguing like this is Stratics. I stated my opinion. I disagree with you.
The OPs post is a terrible idea. These events provide younger players (or any players for that matter) a good option to make some quick millions. Making all items account bound would eliminate that. We should not penalize ourselves in this way simply to try to stop scripting.
Thumbs down on "Account Bound" items or event drops
I agree with you Merlin, These events are great for players that are not able to afford things like pet scrolls, pets, whatever. Drops have started at 5M per every time. The eggs were great gold makers.
Notice the eggs are not shard bound and UO was not ruined, there are 100x more non shard bound eggs than there are shard bound items and UO or economies were not ruined.
There should be a choice or a way to change them to account bound. No greed comes from account bound.
EJ accounts should never be allowed to leave haven
Those other MMOs aren't sandbox MMOs. They are also being called amusement park MMOs. Meaning you barely do anything out in the world and you queue for non-RPG like content. Dungeons/Raids/PVP.
Rimworld, non-MMO, is more similar to UO than World of Warcraft of Final Fantasy. You can trade your items and the AI has an economy it shares with the player that scales on player wealth.
There's a reason people probably don't like the comparisons to other MMOs. It doesn't make sense.
I have not seen any prices drop in UO. Tell them to script Grips.
Strawman means I said you said something and then I argue with what I said you said when you never said it.
Semantics means I'm arguing about your grammar or intended meaning. I understood your argument.
Neither of my arguments are semantics or strawman. You're using buzzwords you read on the internet forums where people argue all day and you don't understand them.
Warcraft and Final Fantasy are indeed more successful, but they are different games. They are not sandbox games. You will never make UO into a Warcraft.
Diablo 3 has toon bound items, But the set items drop frequently.
UO does not need account bound drops. But the ability to convert shard bound to to account bound would be useful.
Some of you newer posters do not know that the original dungeons did not have shard bound items. A few posters complained about people doing events on THEIR shard, which actually helped them because the dungeons are supposed to increase spawn rate as the dungeon population gores up. But a few complainers got it changed.
That was before 2020. Now all shards population has increased to those levels and you do not hear them complaining because they can't play alone now.
With this new and improved drop rate, how many of you are going to get enough spell books on your shard to sell to someone on your shard? Other shards will have surplus, but the players on your shard can not access those.
Atlantic will have surplus of all the items.
If I wanted to play Diablo 3, Warcraft, or Final Fantasy, I'd go download it and play it.
So would I, but I only want the ability to convert to account bound so I can travel with items I earned by playing UO.
Definitely a no from me. With 4 account I have a wide variety of specialty characters… I want to be able to fight for my drops with whatever character works best, even if the drop is for a character on a different account. Shard bound makes it enough of a pain to outfit my characters on shards that aren’t my main.
But the ability to transform a shard bound item into an account bound item hurts no-one, and it could bennefit some.
For example, I was out during Wildfire, so I didn't get the luck mask of wildfire. On Origin, it will be impossible for me to ever have one, its such a tiny shard, and there are none to be had. I could buy one on Atl, but for what, I could not bring it to Origin to pun on my luck suit, so I'm screwed. If however There was a way to buy it, and then transform it onto account bound, I would be able to travel with it back to Origin, and I certainly would not mind AT ALL that my other accounts would not be able to use that piece, at least my main chars would be able to use it, which is definitely better than none having it at all.
I think personal items a player uses should not be shard bound for those players that can travel from shard to shard. Account bound makes sense for personal equipment as opposed to shard bound. But believe shard bound other items is fine. Not all of us can travel. Economy in UO is based on vendors selling players items so don’t see account bound in general being good for the game. Really all players should be able to travel. Would not need shard bound then. Was a mistake to create two classes of players.
Also posters say other should come back from Atlantic to their home shards that they left because they were empty.
How is anyone going to move to another shard? All of their good fighting items are shard bound, now they are stuck.
Shard bound and account bound are always OK for those who think for themselves. And they lived in a dreamy world where they believe there is an abundance of shard bound arties from the past 2 years event selling on every player vendor in all 26 shards for locals, migrants and new players at cheap prices. Yes you have the right of opinion to prefer shard and account bound, and I am still right to call this as selfish.
And now the ones in Denial are calling others "Selfish...think for themselves..." LOL Nice failed debate tactics trying to save your gameplay for CASH PROFIT, SETH. Your logic needs to be rooted somewhere and not always thinking "BIG" and EMPTY.
Heres a perspective from a returning player regarding account/shard bound items...
I returned approximately 2 month ago, I quit in 2000/2001. It was very depressing at first playing on a low populated server and just before the Fey event I was thinking about outright quiting or moving Atlantic shard as these seemed like the only 2 options for me to actually interact with the community.
This event helped greatly establish the gold I needed to buy things I needed to keep me going and stay somewhat competitive. I would have never been able to gain any kind of financial foothold in the game without the event. Being able to buy and sell these event items have gotten me hooked on the game again. The interactions through buying and selling and actively taking part in the event made the game so much more fun.
For 2 months prior to the event I barely got to interact with anyone. I never saw anyone in the wild and the rare person I saw never said hi or replied. I have met so many new people with this event. Both from having everyone in one place working together and from buying and selling event items.
I noticed this with other new players as well. Old established players looking to buy now interact with newer players that actually had something worthy of selling and in demand.
This whole thing has now earned me as a subscriber for some time to come. As a returning/new player I can imagine if I wasnt able to buy/sell and interact with the already established but small community I probably wouldn't be around too long.
“If I want more artifacts, I think I will buy them from other players.
what is the point of forcing every player to script afk to get artis? For a start it is against the Ts&Cs.
i will leave it to the professionals and purchase from them”
By definition, account bound gear can not be sold, so it makes no sense to write about vendors for it, unless you pretend to have gear sold as deco.
It's unnecessary. It doesn't solve any big issues. Shard bound does. UO is a sandbox game with trade. Account Bound removes trade. Shard bound already solves the issue. Farm the items on the shard you want them on.
Darling, you just called them rude, toxic and other-shard-ranters... Maybe if 75 % of your statements didnt just sound like mememememe. Just now in order of apparition: I enjoy, I think, I don't, I hope, I hadn't, I'm sure, I find.... It could come off as a bit too self-aggrandizing, do you see? Your enthusiasm is great, however, no-one died and made you Pontiff, the form matters.
Since UO is a sandbox, is anything necessary?
I'm not going to go digging through forums. I trust that you haven't. It's been done though. Often.
That would be why I responded to acknowledge my error in saying "You all" and not being more specific.
This conversation is done.
