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Issue with TC house contest stone left MANY designs out of the contest

Started by Larisa · 2022-01-18 · 84 posts · General Discussions
#0
So I am on TC and MANY people are saying their designs did not make it onto the stone even though they were enabled into the contest.

I finished mine WAY before the 15th but exited and re-entered the contest on both of my designs just in case. Neither one is on the stone....as is the same for many others.

PLEASE find a way to fix this!
#1
Yeah mine was entered well over a week ago and isn't on the stone.. 
#2
Indeed,  many of us are not showing up in the competition, and you can see in my screen, it says its registered as it gives the option to "exist house design contest", and the plot is set to public.

 (the hour on my screen is Europe, so this image was taken a few minutes after the stone with participants was enabled)

Please Help
#3
I submitted mine the first day and it isnt there !

#4
I've heard mine is not showing, but I won't be able to see or do anything about it till 6pm pst or so, if there is anything that can be done. It was resubmitted after their announcement about things being bugged. 
#5
My husband just told me Bleak and Mesanna are both on TC working on it. I’m sure they’ll try to rectify it. 
#6
Indeed, Messana appeared and is solving the problem as we speak!  Awesome! 
HUGE THANKS! ❤️
#7
Mesanna, Bleak AND Misk are on TC right now helping. THANK YOU so much for taking the time to come into the game to help with this.  Much love!
#8
I entered the contest a few days ago
but I checked again this morning
one wasn't listed as in the contest, so I re-entered it.
the other was showing in the contest.
(both appeared on the stone)

a friend checked this morning & his showed that it was entered in the contest
but his wasn't on the stone
I gated Bleak to this location.

I have another friend whose didn't appear on the stone.
Unfortunately she is at work and couldn't be there when the DEVs were there.
And I didn't have a rune to her plot.

I asked others in chat
if they had made sure this morning if theirs was entered.
they had made sure yesterday, but not this morning.
so maybe the bug happened sometime this morning, on clearing all these houses from the contest
#9
Yes because the stone said BEFORE the 18th.....why check ON the 18th....we did what was told of us.

I even did as you did and took both of mine out of the contest and put them back in this morning. Neither one was on the stone. 

I am glad they are fixing it though, it might take some time...so I would hope that IF anyone voted, those votes get wiped so everyone has an equal chance.

Again thank you to Mesanna, Misk and Bleak for taking the time to do that this morning, I hope they set a time up to do it for the people who were not able to be on at that time.
#10
TC is going down, hopefully those who were on this morning will have their designs put on the stone when it comes back up.
#11
Mine are not on the stone as of yet. Also, the devs were on during my work hours. I am hoping a friend can help get mine on there, but with voting be allowed to go ahead I feel my chances dropping immensely. We need more hours of availability to get our submitted home actually on the stone, and for votes to be reset. 
#12
Very popular contest on TC.   Many have already voted so its not good for those not on the list.  And would not be fair to restart voting.  Those who voted may not know to return and vote again.
#13
Well this is to be expected the first contest...oh wait well spaghetti code oh wait the current developers implemented this.... 
#14

Thx for the fast help yesterday. May the best design win this time!

but...some crap is always ;)  - sorry I have to come out again with that!

Now Charcopy for the TC doesn't work again - until yesterday it ran smoothly, and I thought - oh, now they finally got the hang of it, that this feature for TC isn't gone with every new wipe.

So either Bleak was too eager again yesterday, or someone else didn't feed the hamster again ;) Please fix it as soon as possible. Thanks! People want to vote and not bother with skills on TC.

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#15
Character copy is accessible once again. For any additional contest entries that are still missing, I will be on TC1 today in the commons or you can provide the location in this thread.
#16

Thank you Bleak, hope to see you soon!

Castle Name:    Purrdy Katzell

Facet:                 Trammel

Co-ordinates:   20o 28’S x 39o 22’W,  w1. 763. 1857. 0


Castle Name:      Eclectic Castle Ecstasy

Facet:                   Trammel

Co-ordinates:     33o 8’S x 37o 7’W,  w1. 795. 2000. 0



#17
I'll be at work again, so here are the names and Coords:

The Trinsic Rose Village
Facet: Malas
Coords: 20o 45'N, 36o 8'E
Blended grassy area, a few homes on it, full basement

TheTrinsic Rose Castle
Facet: Malas
Coords: 29o 59N, 30o 30'E
Generic-ish castle look for fun

both are not far west out of Umbra, just off the road each direction. If just one do the village, Id love to be able to decorate that up on my home shard someday with trees, ponds, a cave and the like.

#18
Both entered on the stone, but using it teleports characters to center of house (not outside the house as expected) and unable to move. Could it be a bad Z-axis/elevation value? "Leave House" from character's gump works to release one from catatonic state!
#19
@Bleak so are votes already cast going to be wiped(mine are already cast), or are the late entries at an unfair disadvantage?
#20
Norry said:
@ Bleak so are votes already cast going to be wiped(mine are already cast), or are the late entries at an unfair disadvantage?
The fair thing is to wipe all votes and set new window for voting in  say two weeks it's not like there's any hurry...
#21
I dont think its going to matter in the end.  Im sitting here at the stone watching people gate in their voters. 

The folks who bribe or are a part of large guilds will be controlling which designs make it to the end.  
#22

Castle name: Flora Castle

Co-ordinates: 67o 4'N, 61o 22'E

Facet: Trammel
#23
Castle name: Hlzerne Burgstadt

Coords 38`N 53`W

Facet: Tokuno
#24
@Bleak ; My castle is not showing on the stone:

#25
All listed entries have been added.
#26
Kaz said:
I dont think its going to matter in the end.  Im sitting here at the stone watching people gate in their voters. 

The folks who bribe or are a part of large guilds will be controlling which designs make it to the end.  
Nobody needs to gate in anyone as all toons are born here with a rune book with 9999 charges, and a preset rune to the bank 10 paces east. 
Yesterday I too had a gate open full time for mepole AT the stone to go visit my house , while my place was not on the stone yet... and bystanders went into the gate, and came back again through the constantly open gate.. to and from my house.
So please stop the conspiracy theories!
#27
Bleak said:
All listed entries have been added.
Thanks for the super fast response!   <span>🙂</span>
#28
Archangel said:
Bleak said:
All listed entries have been added.
Thanks for the super fast response!   <span>🙂</span>
Will houses that got an early start be blacked out for 24 hours or we'll just not notice..
#29
I have to agree with Kaz unfortunately, the people in bigger guilds with more friends and accounts will get more votes. It's not mainly about the best designs though that is part of it. Yes the Dev's have the final say but they vote on the ones that get the most votes...which, again, are those who have the most people/accounts.

This time around there are almost 200 entries, SO many of them are SO good it was hard for me to chose just one. I chose one that I personally would not use, but in my opinion was the best designed with the most usable space.

I have yet to cast my vote because I know there are still more that need to be added and I will give those as much thought and considerations as the other ones. People were voting almost as soon as voting was open...they literally had no time to look at every entry so you know they were voting for either their own or a friend/guildmate. Same with the governor elections...it's just the way it is.

I just enjoy looking at all of the creativity and time and effort some people took into these designs.
#30

Castle Name: Grand Palace

Facet: Felluca

Coordinates:  43.26N 67.0 E

#31
The Trinsic Rose is on there twice...150 and 157. Going through the ones that were just added today.

I am glad they added that one, the pictures Threnody posted didn't do it justice!

nvm I guess she did two of them...maybe might not want to name them both the same, very confusing!
#32
Posting for Lady Sparkles:

The Extreme Log Cabin is at 34o 16'N 25o 44'W (Malas) Sierra is the owner of the Castle
White Stone Manor is at 34o 21'N 24o 19'E (Malas) Sparkles is the owner of the Castle
#33
My 2 did not make it to the stone and I entered them on day 3 of the contest. I feel that they should wipe all votes until they fix their mistake. I work full time so I cannot pop into game when a Dev posts that they will be at brit commons.  I think it is pretty unfair to those going onto the stone late. Seems like a bunch of people got an advantage in voting by getting on the stone. Actually, if they just wipe the stone clean and give a few days for everyone to re-enter the contest would be a good solution. I won't hold my breath.

Knightly Castle is at 74o 06' N 58o 30'E (Tram) Ruby Knight is the owner
Castle Byers is at 53o 32'N 28o 29'E (Tram) The Lusty Wench is the owner
#34

Castle Name: Seaside Ruins

Facet: Trammel

Coordinates: 72o 25’S 32o 20E

#35
Archangel said:
Kaz said:
I dont think its going to matter in the end.  Im sitting here at the stone watching people gate in their voters. 

The folks who bribe or are a part of large guilds will be controlling which designs make it to the end.  
Nobody needs to gate in anyone as all toons are born here with a rune book with 9999 charges, and a preset rune to the bank 10 paces east. 
Yesterday I too had a gate open full time for mepole AT the stone to go visit my house , while my place was not on the stone yet... and bystanders went into the gate, and came back again through the constantly open gate.. to and from my house.
So please stop the conspiracy theories!
not really a conspiracy theory unfortunately, I went through the gate they were doing and it went to New Haven town square... I wouldnt have posted if the gate went a house...
#36
I can understand some frustration surrounding this but my take on the voting is, if you’ve built a place and hope to get into the finals or ultimately win, you’re going to vote for your own design. So you’ll be patient with yourself and wait for your design to show up on the stone. 

If you’ve got friends and guild mates you’re looking to recruit to vote for your design then you were most likely able to tell them your design wasn’t showing on the stone. And they’ll most likely be patient and wait for your design to show up.

And if you’re hoping you’ll get votes from players who like to look at all the designs available before they vote, I think there’s little to fear about not having a chance for your design to be seen. 

Because there’s no way players had a chance to look at all the designs on the stone before the devs showed up and started to fix the issue. They got there quickly and stayed for a long time. And came back the following day. 

Given how much chat there was on TC there’s no way players who were touring the castles didn’t see what was going on and wouldn’t know more entries were going to be added. 

I don’t think what happened will make much if any of a difference in the outcome. 
#37
LilyGrace said:
I can understand some frustration surrounding this but my take on the voting is, if you’ve built a place and hope to get into the finals or ultimately win, you’re going to vote for your own design. So you’ll be patient with yourself and wait for your design to show up on the stone. 

If you’ve got friends and guild mates you’re looking to recruit to vote for your design then you were most likely able to tell them your design wasn’t showing on the stone. And they’ll most likely be patient and wait for your design to show up.

And if you’re hoping you’ll get votes from players who like to look at all the designs available before they vote, I think there’s little to fear about not having a chance for your design to be seen. 

Because there’s no way players had a chance to look at all the designs on the stone before the devs showed up and started to fix the issue. They got there quickly and stayed for a long time. And came back the following day. 

Given how much chat there was on TC there’s no way players who were touring the castles didn’t see what was going on and wouldn’t know more entries were going to be added. 

I don’t think what happened will make much if any of a difference in the outcome. 
But if i had seen say xyz i wouldn't have voted for pdq so it of course makes a difference....
#38
If you’re someone who’s going to vote before seeing many designs then it is what it is. You’ve already decided to cut most of the designs out of the running without ever having seen them. 

The problem was noticed right away. The devs were working on the problem right away. There were 108 designs on the stone to start. There’s no way players got through many of those before it was a known issue that would have come to the attention of those calling off the stone. 
#39

My castle is not on the stone. I tied to reach a GM for 2 days then noticed on login it said to come here. Castle location Deceit Island Felucca. Castle name is Hidden River. Architect is Gerand. Thank you.

#40

btw, I second what RubyKnight had to say.


#41
House name: My Place  House maker: Ben Location: Fel Deceit  Please add it.
#42
Just becoming more and more laughable!! Seriously wipe the votes extend entry by a week then two weeks for voting just admit as a team you made mistakes and fix it for once...
#43
Please addition

Castle name: A mansion built on the ruins of a castle with two old towers

maker: ripple

Co-ordinates: 120o 25'N, 174o 23'W

North of Deceit isle  

Facet: Felucca

Thank you

#44
Not registered in the castle customization contest.
Castle name: the old fortress of willows
maker:xiao lin
Facet: Trammel
Coordinates: 62o 19N, 61o 6E
please! :'(

#45
I entered the contest 7 days ago, but my catsle isn't on the list. Please add it.
Castle Name: Martan Iwatey
Maker: Lopia
Facet: Malas 
Coords: 65o 8'N, 45o 8'W
#46

Castle Name:  Mugen Kawaii Castle  
Owner: OGIWAN
Facet: Malas 
Coords: 7.1N 33.15E

Please resister my castle
#47
Castle name: A mansion built on the ruins of a castle with two old towers

maker: ripple

Co-ordinates: 120o 25'N, 174o 23'W

North of Deceit isle  

Facet: Felucca   Trammel  [I made a mistake]

Thank you

#48
城名フォートエン建設業仮名マラス座標
Oo21N38o19E
#49
Please register the castle. 
お城の登録をお願いしますねー

Castellan: Hazedon 
Castle name  Renaissance villa
城の名前  ルネッサンスヴィラ

Facet: Trammel  
Coords: 50o 6'N, 35o 38'E
#50
@Bleak i am being told EJ accounts can use the brown portal to remove EJ status, and can then vote... might wanna remove the gate... maybe wipe the votes and start over after that?
#51
I was just about to post that Norry. I just tested it and yes, I was able to vote.

PLEASE remove that gate, wipe the votes and start fresh once all the new castles have been added!
#52
All this for a contest that realistically impacts under a hundred people (castle owners) maybe in future only accounts that own castle or keeps are allowed to enter and vote ..
#53

Coordinate 90.21 N by 162.04 W Deceit Island Fel. Castle: Hidden River: Arch Gerand. Still not added to stone.


#54
How many EJ accounts do you think did that and then BUILT the castle? I think it would be unfair for someone with 1 paid account that has 2 other EJ accounts to essentially get 3 entries.... also not sure how it would work for someone to place multiple houses on the same account to place entries and then change ownership around ass needed between another account. Should be 1 entry per paid account and honestly 1 entry per person regardless. In my opinion having multiple entries per account like I've seen people post above is like someone bringing their kids along for the extra raffle tickets just so they have more chances to win.
#55
I wonder if there is a way to wipe characters without resetting the shard. Any ejs that went through the gate could revote
#56
McDougle said:
All this for a contest that realistically impacts under a hundred people (castle owners) maybe in future only accounts that own castle or keeps are allowed to enter and vote ..
I suspect there's way more castle owners than you imagine. Origin seems quite empty and at least 40 come to mind. Times how many servers?...
#57
McDougle said:
All this for a contest that realistically impacts under a hundred people (castle owners) maybe in future only accounts that own castle or keeps are allowed to enter and vote ..
Math isn't your strong suit is it.  100 castles total in all of UO, LMAO 4 castles per shard.
#59
Votes have been reset. Those that voted have to vote again. If they get this memo.
#60
Greetings Everyone, We have reset all votes for the Custom Castle contest. All eligible houses will be added to the voting list by us so there is nothing you need to do. The voting dates have not changed so be sure to cast your vote for your favorite castle. We apologize for all the confusion with the Castle Contest. This was an error on our part. We have brought TC1 down to fix the issue and it will return within 30 minutes. We appreciate your patience with us! Good Luck, UO Team

THANK YOU TEAM for fixing it so quickly 🙂
#61
Even after the update my castle is not showing. Castle coordinates 81.23 N 157.46 W. Facet: Fel: Deceit. 

Update: I see it is on thank you
#62
Thanks developers!! Tips my not transmoged top hat 
#63
@Bleak

Town Square, formerly #41 did not come back on the stone this time?
#64
Yeah they added a bunch, there were 167 on the stone before they took TC down, now there are 199 but Town Square isn't on there and a couple that I had written down to look at again are not there.

So everyone needs to double-check to make sure their designs were actually re-added.
#65
Mine made it back on. Slipped from #100 to the very last entry #199
#66
Keep in mind that the EJ account designed houses may have been removed (or at least should have)
#67
Malas Cood: 13.16S 1.28W
Paid Account
Please put it back on the stone @Mesanna @Bleak

#68
@Larisa ; 
so based on "your" opinion, it is unfair for those that pay for 20-30 accounts to vote? 
what happen in situations like that asain guy Hitomi that pay for 150 accounts, because he own 150 houses on atlantic? is he a cheater? because he pay for 150 accounts and paid for 1? 2?

this is no different than UO elections, the more people you know or the more accounts you pay.

so you consider that cheating?

you buy 1 lotto ticket and I buy 100. so based on your views, I am cheating?

what a bunch of Karen's
#69
Reporter said:
@ Larisa  
so based on "your" opinion, it is unfair for those that pay for 20-30 accounts to vote? 
what happen in situations like that asain guy Hitomi that pay for 150 accounts, because he own 150 houses on atlantic? is he a cheater? because he pay for 150 accounts and paid for 1? 2?

this is no different than UO elections, the more people you know or the more accounts you pay.

so you consider that cheating?

you buy 1 lotto ticket and I buy 100. so based on your views, I am cheating?

what a bunch of Karen's
Only accounts that own castles should cote...
#70
Merus said:
Malas Cood: 13.16S 1.28W
Paid Account
Please put it back on the stone @ Mesanna @ Bleak

An account can only have one entry. You have another house entry("House of Worship") registered on the stone.
#71
see, THAT is not supposed to happen!!
1 entry per Paid account only and 1 Vote per PAID account. no matter if the person own 1-10-100 PAID accounts
#72
Bleak said:
Merus said:
Malas Cood: 13.16S 1.28W
Paid Account
Please put it back on the stone @ Mesanna @ Bleak

An account can only have one entry. You have another house entry("House of Worship") registered on the stone.
I did design two but I took the house of worship off and submitted the town square, somewhere the system must have reversed them.  Town Square was there before but not house of worship.  I’ve tried to removed the house of worship via the sign but it doesn't let me, can you please update the stone for the correct house?
#73
How do you build 2 houses on the same account without condeming one? I would think the system wouldn't accept a condemned house.

And Reporter, I never said it was CHEATING...I just said that's how it works..the more people/friends/accts you have, the more votes you get, no matter if you're design is good or not. It should be based on DESIGN not NUMBER OF ACCTS OR FRIENDS you have.
#74
Larisa said:
How do you build 2 houses on the same account without condeming one? I would think the system wouldn't accept a condemned house.

And Reporter, I never said it was CHEATING...I just said that's how it works..the more people/friends/accts you have, the more votes you get, no matter if you're design is good or not. It should be based on DESIGN not NUMBER OF ACCTS OR FRIENDS you have.
You can place as many houses on TC as you have money for.
#75
For Realz? How did I not know that?? 

Geeesh been playin for 14ish years and still learnin new things..thanks!
#76
Larisa said:
For Realz? How did I not know that?? 

Geeesh been playin for 14ish years and still learnin new things..thanks!
game mechanics that you dont understand and that other call cheating.
#77
I'm in no way trying to call you out or slam you, but i also do not believe it could be fairly based only on good design.  "Good Design" is a matter of opinion.
What some people find appealing others see as horrible.
Please don't take offense to this.

This is why I feel they need to just let us have full custom lots.
 
Even if we had to pay a $20 fee to have them or it's a 5 year vet reward...

Once again I'm not attacking in any way what so ever it's just how i feel it would be more fair @Larisa ;  
#78
Skett said:
I'm in no way trying to call you out or slam you, but i also do not believe it could be fairly based only on good design.  "Good Design" is a matter of opinion.
What some people find appealing others see as horrible.
Please don't take offense to this.

This is why I feel they need to just let us have full custom lots.
 
Even if we had to pay a $20 fee to have them or it's a 5 year vet reward...

Once again I'm not attacking in any way what so ever it's just how i feel it would be more fair @ Larisa   

^^
Agree 100%
no one is using dial up anymore.
and they made an ingame option that prevent to show any loaded castle, unless you step in.

there is quite few castles in Pacific and other places with 500+ mannequins that crash anyone that pass by.
#79
Larisa said:
The Trinsic Rose is on there twice...150 and 157. Going through the ones that were just added today.

I am glad they added that one, the pictures Threnody posted didn't do it justice!

nvm I guess she did two of them...maybe might not want to name them both the same, very confusing!
Yea, I didn't realize they wouldn't put their entire names on the stone. That's on my ignorance :/

The small village one is #74 now. I appreciate the compliment about it. I just did not take the time to take a photo in classic client. It looks far better in classic client, and in person. It is inspired after a home I already made on my home shard. The small home in the center actually just hides the stairs up from the main level. The idea being it would look like a built in home, as opposed to player made. 🙂 Ive added the home as an example of what I was picturing as far as decor when I built the custom castle. Invisible edges. But, you also have all the space on that first level as a hidden area/basement. I spent a good week trying to add many tiny details, like the "basement" look in the front house (tavern in my mind), and the "stone supports" for the back home (witches home)


#80

LOL I have one on Pac like that 🙁
this only 2/3 of mannequins their
But I know the castles your talking about in the swamps...



#81
I feel Larisa’s frustration. I know people who don’t look at a single design. All they do is go the stone and vote upon request. 

I get what Skett is saying too. Good or great design is very subjective. 

And I agree it would be great to give control of castle and keep design to the players on their home shards. It would make a lot more players happy than the contest does. 

Honestly, for me, I can’t think of much that I would enjoy more than being able to tinker with castle and keep designs that I could create for myself. 

I also think the Borg cube issue isn’t much of an issue. Would there be some of that? Yeah probably.  But I believe there’d be a lot more interesting and fun and dynamic designs to look at than not. 

With the option of not having house contents load as you pass by I don’t see how lag could be a big issue. Unless there’s something I’m missing about how castles and keeps can create lag. Which is entirely possible. 
#82
LilyGrace said:
I feel Larisa’s frustration. I know people who don’t look at a single design. All they do is go the stone and vote upon request. 

I get what Skett is saying too. Good or great design is very subjective. 

And I agree it would be great to give control of castle and keep design to the players on their home shards. It would make a lot more players happy than the contest does. 

Honestly, for me, I can’t think of much that I would enjoy more than being able to tinker with castle and keep designs that I could create for myself. 

I also think the Borg cube issue isn’t much of an issue. Would there be some of that? Yeah probably.  But I believe there’d be a lot more interesting and fun and dynamic designs to look at than not. 

With the option of not having house contents load as you pass by I don’t see how lag could be a big issue. Unless there’s something I’m missing about how castles and keeps can create lag. Which is entirely possible. 

very well said ty
#83
What percentage of the customer base owns a castle? Or keep? charge money let them design own make it have to be reviewed before it's allowed quit wasting the limited time and resources the team has so they can focus on things that impact the actual customer base..
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